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Re: WARNING PAN CHAMELEON

Postby EliOli » Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:54 am

atonal sonographik wrote:
aussiedingo wrote:Here is a recent new pan sold for 1000 euro and he bought a few... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3zlAI4t7c


that doesnt sound very good, imo :?

my aciel cost me that much and it sounds a lot better


I have to agree. That's not really very good. :|
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Re: WARNING PAN CHAMELEON

Postby Fishstick » Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:32 am

The handpans you see on the videos are 3'rd party tuned. And just a few by Kieren himself...
I had the chance to play most of the creations there and as stated in another thread about panchameleon that getting a pan like the ones i played on is like shitting on someones dreams.
https://www.handpan.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9802 The reference here

One of thePanchameleon pans played by a real customer...
Good salesman.
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Re: WARNING PAN CHAMELEON

Postby Snivy » Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:53 am

I'm all for open discussion, reviews, comments and even carefully worded opinions, but just a gentle reminder to keep the conversation constructive and polite.

Carry on......

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Re: WARNING PAN CHAMELEON

Postby broussel2 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 7:44 am

It's the telephone/fake customers thing that bugs me the most--this is beyond personal conflict. I remember this other noisy pair of handpan producers who bought ridiculous amounts of likes for their YouTube videos...
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Re: WARNING PAN CHAMELEON

Postby Miguel Carvalho » Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:45 am

Snivy wrote:I'm all for open discussion, reviews, comments and even carefully worded opinions, but just a gentle reminder to keep the conversation constructive and polite.

Carry on......

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Re: WARNING PAN CHAMELEON

Postby Marnamber » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:33 am

Cmon guys, those instruments suck really, and the guy is like the european version of Maximiliano Abad -_-
It´s not "be polite"... it´s just what it is. Crappy instruments, simple and plain. "maker" with lots of excuses, and no results.
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Re: WARNING PAN CHAMELEON

Postby Daydreambeliever » Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:00 pm

This is a very interesting read...
I've had the pleasure of dealing with this person (not connected with an instrument though).
Now I know what the fuss is all about. Hopefully, things will resolve to the satisfaction of all parties involved.
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Re: WARNING PAN CHAMELEON

Postby Daydreambeliever » Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:20 pm

Now this:
https://www.facebook.com/ghadi.abboud/v ... 330453339/
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Re: WARNING PAN CHAMELEON

Postby mudman » Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:02 pm

Hmm, it says the link is broken or the page may have moved.
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Re: WARNING PAN CHAMELEON

Postby Daydreambeliever » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:03 pm

Yeah, there has been some sort of settlement.
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