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Re: trying to give a pig in a poke??

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:46 pm
by drumabob
mudman wrote:Bob, you should remove your email address from your post. Bots scan the net looking for targets for spam! :!:


hey thanks...done

Re: trying to give a pig in a poke??

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:04 pm
by broussel2
The Bali Steel Pan is worth $1,200 (shipping included + $100 to some location)... when it is new and in tune !
http://www.balisteelpan.com/

Unfortunately even the ones in perfect condition are not that easy to sell these days because of all the new nitriding makers... Original price or a bit more is the max you can expect if in pristine condition.
"Second generation" means nothing of course when it comes to Bali Steel Pan...

Re: trying to give a pig in a poke??update

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:25 pm
by drumabob
Just exchange a few mails with Elie the seller. So last summer he met this guy from switzerland who was playing in a parc who told him it was a hang showing him the sticker inside. :x Met the guy many times during the summer . He fell in love with the instrument, did a fast research to find out that they where hard to get and saw one go for 7000$ on ebay. So he borrowed money from a friend and they both bought this pan 6.500 can $ :shock: saying that if they get tired of it, it would be an easy sell back. Now he realises that they have been scam, feels really bad about the whole thing and his also getting pressure from his friend who may not have has mutch ethical problems with this. He will probably still go ahead with his sale but will remove any mention of second gen. I suggested him to put it up for bids and see how it goes. My final argument was...honesty always pays off and if you scam someone you are no better than the one who scammed you..it's your karma not mine ...end of story ?? dont know...i sure tried..

Re: trying to give a pig in a poke??

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:21 pm
by broussel2
Holes in the story... Why did this guy playing handpan in the park have a PANArt sticker in his Bali ?

Re: trying to give a pig in a poke??

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:24 pm
by Miguel Carvalho
broussel2 wrote:Hole in the story... Why did this guy playing handpan in the park have a PANArt sticker in his Bali ?

Probably scammed by someone else too? :hmm: :shrug:

Re: trying to give a pig in a poke??

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:25 pm
by broussel2
... And why did not he play much this instrument he had just paid $,6,500 can ? And how did he fall in love with such a detuned instrument ? I mean, it sounds terrible...

Re: trying to give a pig in a poke??

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:27 pm
by CarolW
broussel2 wrote:... And why did not he play much this instrument he had just paid $,6,500 can ? And how did he fall in love with such a detuned instrument ? I mean, it sounds terrible...


1) Probably didn't play much because it sounded so bad - so he lost interest;

2) Had no IDEA what a handpan (or a hang) should sound like, so however it sounded, he thought it should sound like that.

Additional question, based on my suggested answers: Wonder what he thought music is supposed to be or whether it should be or COULD be beautiful in some way - or not! :ugeek:

Re: trying to give a pig in a poke??

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:19 pm
by drumabob
each and every one of you have good questions...i dont think this kid will answer me anymore...even if my growling bear never showed up ;)

Re: trying to give a pig in a poke??

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:31 pm
by broussel2
1) Probably didn't play much because it sounded so bad - so he lost interest;


Well given the fact that he had come to listen to it many times and spend $6,500 I can hardly imagine he did not find a unconscious way to persuade himself it sounded good... :D
I can hardly imagine falling in love with that sound... but love is blind (and sometimes expensive).
Maybe he more thought of selling i back ?
I don't think the guy wanted to scam anyone but I wonder if he bought it from the heart... or maybe he detuned it himself ?
Still it's on sale for $4,300...

Re: trying to give a pig in a poke??

PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:31 pm
by Sergio
Poor guy...