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1st gen on Ebay

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:09 am
by Carl
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PanArt-hang-B ... 4ad62f2b0f

Any thoughts? I have a feeling I've seen the pictures before

Re: 1st gen on Ebay

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:22 am
by JeremyD
I just glanced at the ad quickly and watched the video, but it looks legit to me.

The Hang sounds like it could use a retune.

Re: 1st gen on Ebay

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:40 am
by simsomsam
I've seen the picture of hang in the box before on other ebay listings. You can tell this hang doesn't match the others in the pictures or video. The title Bb Penta doesn't match the notes or "keys" quoted in the video or the questions at the bottom " A C D E G". I asked this seller some questions days ago and have had no reply yet. Also the price seems to have gone DOWN by £1000 overnight??

Mega out of tune video notwithstanding, I'm definitely smelling danger with this one.

Re: 1st gen on Ebay

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:12 pm
by Klangzaun
I agree with simsomsam. There are some issues:

- the "scale" doesn't correspond to the named notes.

- my questions are still unanswered, too.

- "hardly used" as mentioned in the video seems to be a bit understated.

- I guess it needs big efforts to be retuned.

- € 300,- cost for shipping isn't reasonable

Re: 1st gen on Ebay

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:43 pm
by Ralf
Scam!

If you click on the image to enlarge it, you can right click and copy image-url, then put that in google and you can choose to search for similar images. It got me here:

http://musical-shop.co.uk/sv/home/37-panart-hang-bb-pentatonic-first-generation.html

Re: 1st gen on Ebay

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:52 pm
by Ralf
Nice thing about the website is that support-operator/supermodel Sophie starts talking to you, nice to troll her (probably a him) a bit:

I said something like: do you like scamming ppl?

"We are a real company if you have scammed please don't speak with me like that on our website in about us section you have our all information you can search our company to see we are a real store and we get a live in 2009"


:doh:

Re: 1st gen on Ebay

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:24 pm
by willow
I've talked to the lovely lady too, needles to say the conversation was pointless. Didn't ask for much, just a picture of one of the store people in front of all the hangs together that they claim to be selling. :)

Anyway, she said 2009 ? Strange that according to internet stats, the store is less then 6 months old. :)

http://www.scamadviser.com/check-websit ... shop.co.uk (interesting site with "interesting" information about the legit store :) )

Re: 1st gen on Ebay

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:46 pm
by JeremyD
One way to tell if it is a scam, ask if you can do a local pick-up.

Re: 1st gen on Ebay

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:52 pm
by broussel2
Ralf wrote:Scam!
If you click on the image to enlarge it, you can right click and copy image-url, then put that in google and you can choose to search for similar images. It got me here:
http://musical-shop.co.uk/sv/home/37-panart-hang-bb-pentatonic-first-generation.html


This site is a well-known scam. Now are they the same scammer or different scammers stealing their images or is one(shop) a scammer and the other (eBay) not?

Looks like a who-comes-first-chicken-or-egg story, but probably with a lot of chickens and no egg!

Re: 1st gen on Ebay

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:08 pm
by mudman
broussel2 wrote:Looks like a who-comes-first-chicken-or-egg story, but probably with a lot of chickens and no egg!


That seems to me like a very appropriate label for anyone that tries to operate a scam like this. If you choose to scam others, you truly are a chicken, meaning you are morivated by fear. If only they really had the 'egg' in their life to play they might change their view of life. How ironic that they are scamming people over an instrument regarded as a means to self-exploration and improvement.