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Panart Gong Diao (Warning) Ramon Seijo

PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:42 pm
by MaximilianDrum
Hi all , I come to tell you a little story that went back quite large. It turns out that Mr. ramon seijo located in Gerona Spain , has a hang Panart c pentatonic ( gongdiao ) " in perfect harmony " according to his posting on facebook.
ramon and I go to facebook .
the question is that we agreed to swap my Bells v2, and MetalArt for his Panart one generation " in perfect harmony according ramon " and a ticket to Spain for me.
It turns out that after watching this video, ( I always had my doubts before as this video would be the Panart ), but always trusting .
is that after this video I'm realizing that it is not a trusted seller , and was mad at me and decided to cancel my flight and lose € 650 uros , " because I am not a man of words." ( because I pedi on getting a ticket to italy for the hang is retuned by frame , and cost 60 euros tuning ) .
you would do if you had two handpans high quality and offer you a Panart like this? .
Careful with this person . Not a word salesman .

ps: if someone is interested in your Panart in swap ( facebook group)
be careful. that all is not rosy .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va1V_MWYUhY

Re: Panart Gong Diao (Warning) Ramon Seijo

PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:54 pm
by broussel2
A PANArt Hang that you planned to swap or sale yourself before even owning it ?
Nothing is really completely clear with you either, Maximilian...

Screen capture from https://www.facebook.com/groups/1380017882248502/

Re: Panart Gong Diao (Warning) Ramon Seijo

PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:59 pm
by Afinfas
broussel2 wrote:A PANArt Hang that you planned to swap or sale yourself before even owning it ?
Nothing is really completely clear with you either, Maximilian...


Ohoho...the cat was caught with the tail outside... : :D

Is that really true maximilian? You were swaping/selling something you didnt even own yet!!? You care to explain? Maybe there is some confusion/missunderstanding...

Re: Panart Gong Diao (Warning) Ramon Seijo

PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:05 pm
by MaximilianDrum
Exactly, offering the hang confident, to go to get my jibuk aeolian scales and to Europe.

I did not answer but no message about the price of Panart, he still was not mine. just wanted to see how much there is for people interested. but everything is done behind even this person "seijo ramon" € 650 uros opted lose your ticket for me.
and secure this with the intention to sell this Panart totally out of tune.
I tried not sell Panart before owning. just looking for people interested, you can see personally hang in europe.

Re: Panart Gong Diao (Warning) Ramon Seijo

PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:08 pm
by MaximilianDrum
I just want to prevent any person who is crazy for Panart, lose money.

anyway could never sell a handpan within my country, because we do not receive dollars and not euros. if I want to make a sale if you or if I have to travel abroad.
1 euro: $ 15 here 1 usd: $ 11

why in the publication "I will clarify europe in February"
to be seen in person by a would-be buyer.

Re: Panart Gong Diao (Warning) Ramon Seijo

PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:13 pm
by broussel2
My understanding is that all these handpans are just business material to you ? I mean, trading a BElls and a Metal-Art for a PANArt plus a plane ticket, then proceeding to reselling or trade before you even touched that Hang... It's a profit chain.

A process you're familiar with if I remember well.

Re: Panart Gong Diao (Warning) Ramon Seijo

PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:19 pm
by MaximilianDrum
There is material for my business, I'm just looking THROUGH my favorite scales changes, I'm not a flipper.
the problem is that from here (Argentina) everything goes 11 or 14 times the real price. because my country is not in good condition.
ie. € 1000 are about 15,000 argentinian here. with $ 15,000
do you understand this?
ie I have to put together 11 or 14 times more than you.
if I wanted to do business with handpans and sell them on ebay would publish.
if you doubt me please add me to facebook and ask me anything you want.

http://www.dolarblue.net/

I have a Bellart protus nearly 2 years ago. and MetalArt for 3 months. unfortunately not combine these scales such as (aeolian, protus, or jibuk and aeolian) those are my favorite scales.
scales I want to have forever. but everything is very complicated from here. alla is everything simpler for you.

Imagine if you pay 10 or 14 times more. ?

Re: Panart Gong Diao (Warning) Ramon Seijo

PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:31 pm
by broussel2
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=10365

The point is : handpans are not material for speculation, whatever they cost.

Re: Panart Gong Diao (Warning) Ramon Seijo

PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:35 pm
by mudman
broussel2 wrote:A PANArt Hang that you planned to swap or sale yourself before even owning it ?
Nothing is really completely clear with you either, Maximilian...

Screen capture from https://www.facebook.com/groups/1380017882248502/

The incident with MaximilianDrum selling an overpriced and incorrectly described Disco Armonico taken together with this development makes me wonder if this is an attempt to make some quick cash by flipping.

As for the warning, let that be a double-edged sword. Like attracts like.

Re: Panart Gong Diao (Warning) Ramon Seijo

PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:36 pm
by MaximilianDrum
It very well in question, you have to teach me anything.
here we are talking about a Panart hang out of tune.
if you have any problem or doubt me, please let me know, maybe by facebook.

you have no idea on that thread. and what happens in each part of the world. Greetings